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Claric, PM me or have a DC officer PM me (or another Tem officer) with who has DC-tagged chars. It's against our policies. The only one I know about was taken care of a while ago. If you're *this* certain that they exist you must have some specific suspicions about who it is.<br /><br />I have never seen a screenshot of DC /gu, show me one or it's hearsay. If someone is saying it and it's fact, then the screenshot must exist, and therefore can be produced or we can get enough information about who it was to talk to them.<br /><br />Given how wrong I know you are about what I personally said, you'll excuse me if I don't leap up and believe you in this new round of accusations.<br /><br /><br />You come here slinging insults around and expect us to just roll back and take them.<br /><br />Again -- support it, and do something *constructive* to address your problems or get out. Posting here is not constructive -- it is drama. Bring proof, or come with some very specific issues privately. I can give you a whole litany of offenses DC has commited against Temerity, but the difference is I've either dropped them or taken them up privately with DC's officers. I don't go posting on your forums with rumors and hearsay.<br /><br />The only thing I posted is that I've heard from *your* guild members that there's internal drama. Are you saying I haven't heard that? That's the only possible innaccuracy in my post -- but it's not one. Here's one piece of public evidence: <a href="http://guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=8928&ForumID=37512&TabID=73084&TopicID=2111319">http://guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=8928&ForumID=37512&TabID=73084&TopicID=2111319</a>. Plenty of private comments flying around in tells right now -- who knows, maybe they're all spreading innaccuracies too, especially the DC-tagged people!<br /><br />Or are you telling me you already asked Kaany and she said that we either didn't come to DC first, or that we told her that we were trying to get this person banned? Is that the innaccuracy you speak of?<br /><br />Is the innaccuracy instead in my logic, where I explained how flat out stupid it would be for us to be trying to get her banned (either with /gu comments or not) while posting to tem.org saying not to respond to her and asking DC officers to handle it?<br /><br /><br />I'll tell you what I'm tired of: your second-hand references, accusations, and comments in which you insinuate things and then when called on it, say that's not what you meant and can't we all just get along.<br /><br />I'd rather of course that you do the right thing here, and not believe everything you hear, and that people stop trying to invent problems. But at the very least keep the drama to dc.com please and away from tem.org.<br /><br /><br />--<BR>
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Viva, oh great and powerful roguish one, it is my sincere opionion that you are of lower than average intelligence, possibly leading one to classify you as being, verily, a 'true idiot'. <br>
Edited for grammer.<br /><br /><br /><span class="MessageEditText">Edited by cadsuanefuzzybunny 3/9/2006 7:59 AM (Most Recent)</span>
i was told that some of dc's post's were screenshoted correct me if i
am wrong. i even was told viva posted them on temerity
boards. Now correct me if i am wrong again. i will never know if
your lying. but truthfuly i am not a pathological liar. i
will trust you if you say this is false.<br><br />
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Viva's response in 3...2...1...<br /><br /><br />Redleaf
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claric_thecleric said:<center><div class="QuotedForumText" style="width: 90%;text-align: left;"><hr><b>quote:</b><br><br> viva your a true idiot. <br>
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Viva should be capitalized, and it's "you're", not "your".<br>
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And I thought we were friends, Joe? Just a few months ago you had this
to say when I mentioned the fact that we rarely spoke anymore:<br>
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Claric the ever-flaming tard said:<center><div class="QuotedForumText" style="width: 90%;text-align: left;"><hr><b>quote:</b><br><br><span class="postbody">
Sarah i loved talking to you on the phone, please don't take our lack of communcation as a divide. I never have.<hr></div></center><br>
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Awwwwwwws, what happened to our bffness? <img src="/forums/images/gpicons/face_sad.gif"><br>
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ETA: Oh, and yeah, I won't deny posting the screenshots on our
forums. I won't tell you who I got them from, but they served
their purpose. Which, contrary to popular belief, was not to gain
inside information on DC's "leet raid strats" or schedule. F off
Claric.<br>
</span><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1189477"> Ms. Viva IceBear</a>
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Good girls don't play rogues.<br><br>
<i>Let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure.</i><br /><br /><span class="MessageEditText">Edited by Viva 3/8/2006 5:06 PM (Most Recent)</span>
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<span style="font-family: times new roman;">Claric, I know you are
angry dear, but perhaps try to see it from our perspective. As far as I
know, I know no Tem peeps who have done any wrong. We here are unaware
of any people taking screenshots of your guildchat and etc - but if you
see this I encourage you to do / alls regularly and keep eqlog on
incase something appears on the forums screenshotted. Also, if people
are reading your forums, I encourage you to look through and delete the
people who have access ASAP. I am unaware of the other drama, but it is
better to work it out with a Temerity officer then bring it to the
forums - there are many people here who take things personally and love
to flame.<br>
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The best thing to do is take a deep breath in dear and rethink what
your post states. To us it does not make sense as we have done no
crime. If you can prove some members have done wrong, then maybe
you will be better recieved. xoxo<br>
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<P class="MsoNormal">And that concludes today's entertainment, a big thank you to<br />all the participants.<O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal">Temerity will move on to the EP's and Claric...you keep<br />striving for ft6.<O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal">out<O:P></O:P></P><br /><br /><br />Redleaf
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redleaf said:<center><div class="QuotedForumText" style="width: 90%;text-align: left;"><hr><b>quote:</b><br><br><P class="MsoNormal">And that concludes today's entertainment, a big thank you to
all the participants.<O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal">Temerity will move on to the EP's and Claric...you keep
striving for ft6.<O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal">out<O:P></O:P></P><hr></div></center><BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>OMG, LOL</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>This is too awesome....</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1263833"><u>Mordor</u></a> <br><br>
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wouldnt it be cool if temerity and dc didnt have to waste their pride bickering over the most mundane things said in /gu? <DIV>wouldnt it be cool if temerity and dc joined forces and got into the elementals?</DIV><DIV>wait that could never happen, because there are too many stubborn asses on this server.</DIV><DIV>but wouldnt it be cool? </DIV><DIV>i hear the plane of water, earth and fire are extremely badass.</DIV><DIV>we could boost the alkabor economy with that type of progression.</DIV><DIV>not only for dc and temerity, for thats all we seem to care about, but for the other guilds that seem to be shuffled into the background like wallflowers.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>this eutopic idea of mine seems almost impossible when our servers top leaders are fighting and going on and on about super important things about who farted in /gu etc, etc. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>unity and discipline will overcome everything.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>for the sake of al'kabor please stfu and help whoever is at your side, and we will slay the gods who have been taunting us against each other like puppets. i dont want to be the laughing stock to all of the PC servers, and at this rate it almost seems like were in the special olympics.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Yoda</DIV><DIV>monk</DIV><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Photodestroyer/bottomsite.gif" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket">
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There's far more issues with that Yoda than just who is a stubborn ass or bickerings over who said what where (although Claric I'm confused, first your issue was screenshots of /gu, now it's screenshots of the forums... How about talking about who has screenshots of Redleaf nekkid? Or how about you have a little chatsy with your guild officers about some of this? You might discover that things are actually being handled without people going to forums and flinging insults around), but this thread isn't the place for them.<br /><br />Now stop insulting my donkey and go pull something and die for me<img src="/forums/images/gpicons/face_grin.gif">.<br /><br /><br />--<BR>
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Viva said:<center><div class="QuotedForumText" style="width: 90%;text-align: left;"><hr><b>quote:</b><br><br><SPAN class="postbody"><BR>
ETA: Oh, and yeah, I won't deny posting the screenshots on our
forums. I won't tell you who I got them from, but they served
their purpose. <BR>
</SPAN><hr></div></center><BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Yes, Viva, they did serve their purpose of what you didn't intend when you posted them. They have served to divide our guilds further. Your actions of posting this is the catalyst for Claric's knee-jerk reaction post here as well as the catalyst for all the wrangling between DC and Temerity officers trying to deal with the fallout of what you did. If the information was useless as everyone claims, then why post in the first place?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Below is a post made by me in the DC private forums. I hope the message gets through to our members and I hope it has the same effect here. I post this in the spirit of what Yoda said previously.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>"The issue lies with 1 or 2 former members of DC who happen to be in Temerity now and now have brought all this crap to another guild thus dividing us further.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Stop accusing a whole body of people for the actions of a few. In this instance, the officers of Tem have been trying to work with us to control the situation. Please just let things settle down.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>It's only a game."</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for taking the time to read this.</DIV><br />
One of
your members took screenshots of our forums with my DAMN TOON and then
another posted it on YOUR BOARDS. So don't wonder about why i
posted or why i seem to be upset. How would you feel if you were
me because it pisses me off. That
is why i posted, that is unreal, deceitful and i feel used. i
would send you a Pm about it kyth,. however.<br>
ive said all i want to say. <br>
redleaf if your talking about my magelo? i updated it for you get
a fricking clue....your not hearing me. i am not posted cause i
hate tem. i just think some of you need to can the maliscuousness
toward DC. OWN Up and stop it.<br>
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Yoda i would raid with any guild. I would help any guild
see more content. however, the only other two raiding
guilds besides DC don't really find cross-guild teamwork in their best
interest ATM. so until DC gets to the point where they can
attempt a emperor Kill. i am done playing everquest. Not
because i dont enjoy it. But because there just isnt anything to
do right now that i am interested in. Iv'e payed my dues in ST,
ntoV, Ssra, Up and many other zones. i am sure many on this
server feel that way. Dc is still progressing very quickly.
i believe in DC, i know many of you root for DC. <br>
Some teamwork on al kabor would be an awesome thing. <br>
Claric. <br>
.. Pm me with responses i wont be back to read your forum
responses. i am pretty much done with eq for awhile.
A good ole eq break, that is what i seek.<br><br /><br /><br /><span class="MessageEditText">Edited by claric_thecleric 3/9/2006 12:50 PM (Most Recent)</span>
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Jinkys, I said this to you in PM's and I'll say it here:<br /><br />Trying to pin all the "fault" for this on 1-2 people or on one guild is incredibly myopic and only furthers this divide you claim to be interested in closing. <br /><br />Your post is as much drama and as divisive as was Claric's, or as Viva's actions were.<br /><br />(The simple answer to your question to Viva was she wanted to prove that DC was doing what a few people in Tem were upset about Temerity doing, nothing more. You already know this, and you know the content of these supposedly horrific screenshots -- why are you bringing this up again?)<br /><br /><br />My recommendation, again, to DC is that you guys think long and hard about how the level of your reaction compares to the level of the insult (whether it's real or invented.) Temerity and other guilds on this server have let far larger things go, or quietly taken them to the officers of the offending guild and asked what was up.<br /><br /><br />--<BR>
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Claric, you cannot blame me for the fact that your posts are confusing. You said screenshots of /gu, I asked for them since it was news to me, you then said screenshots of the forums. That's something I'm aware of, and have already addressed with your guild leaders and with the individual involved on the Temerity side -- if you don't think it was an acceptable outcome, talk to your officers first to find out what the outcome was.<br /><br />Spell: Mindread Claric unfortunately isn't implemented in our EQ yet, I do rely on what you say here to understand what you're asking for.<br /><br /><br />If you're upset about people using your forum account, change the password -- don't start yelling at me about it. Better yet, don't give it out in the first place, and if you do, change it periodically. Seriously.<br /><br />I'm sorry you feel used etc. -- it's frustrating when someone violates trust we've put in them. The right answer isn't to lash out at everyone around them though, it's to address it with them directly and to take steps so you know who has your access.<br /><br /><br />I don't really have interest in corresponding with a Claric who is throwing insults at anyone he can see, so no, I won't PM.<br /><br />Feel free to IM me if you actually want to talk about things though.<br /><br /><br />--<BR>
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You, unfortunately, missed the point, Kyth. I believe I covered what I wanted to say in my post. If you disagree with the content, then so be it. I stand by what I said because I believe it to be the case - don't blame a whole guild for the dumb actions of 1 or 2 people - is that a bad point to make?<br /><br /><br /><span class="MessageEditText">Edited by Jinkys 3/9/2006 12:58 PM (Most Recent)</span>
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