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Rider · 11-04-2003, 01:09 AM

hello, i am Rider, a few of you might see me posting on eqmac a bunch, or my in game character pazuzu, but if you have you might notice im looking for a new guild. aside from difference of opinion in my former guild, i now want to progress with my character, it seems i havent been paying enough attention to any one character to get them of a decent level, but as it seems i now have a 34 magician, out to see the world and gain power. on eqmac somebody suggested i check here about my LFG dilema, im not actually LFG right now, id like to get a few more levels (say hit 40 first), but i am currently looking at and considering a few guilds. since i am looking at higher end guilds, that leaves few choices. so im wondering a few things about temerity. besides the obvious, what sets apart temerity from the other guilds? how does temerity feel about alts, guilded or unguilded? and traders? hand-me-down items? any other things that you think can help my decision? thats about all i have, most important is the first one, the guilds im looking at all state very similar things on their website, so it is hard to decide which one is better suited for me. -------------------------- 
UnRetired member of Temerity 
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Deleted User · 11-04-2003, 04:04 AM

Hi Rider. I'd like to preface my reply by saying I am not an official officer of Temerity, but I have been around since the initial conception of the guild itself. I imagine some other guild members might add some input after me, but I'd thought I'd present you with my own personal outlook. I think first and foremost, our guild is the only guild that has the high end content/game as a primary goal. Other guilds such as Dark Conquest have the high end game as a goal, but in my opinion, after reading their manifesto, I find their guild to be aimed towards other things as well. In essence, our guild enjoys achieving big accomplishments together. Defeating difficult mobs and exploring challenging zones is where most of us find our fun in exchange for $13 dollars a month. More importantly, this enjoyment roots from doing these accomplishments with a community of people you enjoy being around. Temerity does not currently require you to have any prior vast knowledge of the game, or be a pro gamer. We do, however ask that you come with a willingness to learn techniques, and to cooperate with one another. In addition, I'd say that if you'd want to join, you'd have to be somewhat serious of doing higher tier events. In all honesty, role playing is not a primary goal of our guild. That's not to say that's not allowed, but the difficult stuff is where we're aimed. If you find more enjoyment in role playing than working in a raid type scenario this probably isn't the guild for you. Another thing that's different about our guild is that we're currently "a need before greed" or merit based system. Because we're a new server, certain classes will need items more than some others to begin with. Basically, our loot system, which is only implemented during guild events, it doesn't apply to individual groups, is determined by the Raid leaders and Guild officers. We want to make sure our Main Tanks, Main Assists, etc have the gear they need, so we can do greater things. Yet, at the same time, we're resolved to returning to a zone or MOB to farm it until everybody is satisfied with an item they need. For example, I can no longer remember how many times we've killed Lodi, in fact I'm personally sick of doing him, but we continue to do him because people still need his drops. Aslo, we've just recently started doing the named dragon in CS and will continue to do him until we find a MOB that we can do who has bettter items or get all his drops, which ever happens first. Lastly, Temerity generally likes players to seek us out, opposed to us looking for people to recruit, because if they do, that shows that they have a general interest in what we do, it means they want to be here. Temerity doesn't mind if you have an alt, but when you play your alt more than your main character, or if you spend an equal amount of time on both, you'll get behind the rest of the guild. In addition, anybody wanting to join, should not see our guild as a means to equipping an alt; main characters always come first. Most people choose to tag their alts into the guild, I, on the other hand, choose not to. Some days, I like to have some quiet time to myself. Just remember there's still the expectation that you conduct yourself in a reasonable manner, and don't do deceitful things such as being tagged in two separate guilds, or using the alt to play mind tricks with people. Our order for loot is 1) Main Characters -- 2) Hand me downs to other Main Characters -- 3) Alts willing to pay a reduced price for item -- 4) Bazaar Traders. Each category is generally exhausted, meaning everybody is asked before the next category is instigaged. As far as helping you make your decision, you're really the only person who can decide that. Find out what you want out of Everquest and then weigh it with our guild and other guilds and try to find the place that best fits your goals. I wish you best of luck in your decision, and should you decide on Temerity I look forward to seeing your application in the Application forum. Best Wishes,

Zatrik · 11-04-2003, 02:27 PM

You were in the Horde right? We don't like alts much, but they're a necessary evil, especially for characters that can't solo, or just can't escape the level grind to do something like farm greens for tradeskills or work on faction or something. They're just a distraction, so I think most people don't like seeing people playing with a million of them and never taking their main anywhere About gear. Yeah, we give out a lot of hand me downs. We do things mostly need before greed, in raids gear is decided by the officers, in groups, the groups decide. This seems a lot more fair on raids than /rolling. Right now though, Gnatzilla gets the best of our gear, since he's our raid tank and gear is most important for him. It's not compulsory to give items to alts though. If you got it, and you need to sell it, you're not obligated to give it to someone's twink. I usually give out everything I get that I don't need, or I put it on a guild bazaar mule. Not much I can do with plat at this point anyhow, so I don't worry about it much. Personally if you made a trader mule, I would ask that you tag it, but I don't know that there's a rule for that. If Zarnza would've tagged her trader Misty, maybe she would act a little more responsibly. We aren't the uber leet bastards that everyone on EQmac makes us out to be. Most of us are newbs, some do have a lot of experience, but most don't. If you don't join Temerity, I'd suggest you look at DC if you're interested in the high end game. We seem to be the only two guilds actually interested in the upper echelons of EQ. Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 
-Walter

Derechai · 11-04-2003, 03:20 PM

<center><div class="QuotedForumText" style="width: 90%;text-align: left;"><hr>quote: Anyhow, we are the uber leet bastards that everyone on EQmac makes us out to be.<hr></div></center>

We are? Someone forget to send me a memo on this?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Derechai
Level 55 Templar <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_profile.html?num_char=679533/url>Derechai Woundmender</a>

Zatrik · 11-04-2003, 03:58 PM

Hahaha, sorry typo. Also, I should point out, I'm not an officer or anything either. Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. 
-Walter

Rider · 11-04-2003, 04:17 PM

i do wander in RP mode ATM, though RPing isnt my main concern. for now im just concentrating on building my character, trying not to miss any cool areas along the way, and so on. i do play a few alts sometime, but i would never expect anything from a raid, hardly from a group, to be given to him. 99% of the time anything that goes on an alt of mine is something i bought in bazaar or went after with my own group and basically earned myself for him. i certainly dont want to join a guild for items and such, ive never been too itemcentric in rpgs, though i am trying to keep my int gear up now that mana is being used up like mad. anyway for now im not realy set on any specific aspect of the game aside from just leveling up, which i mostly do solo (hence the RP aspect, one to block info, and mostly to RP as an erudite) i do plan to remove the RP once i hit 50s though, which is when i would like to go on raids. ive been playing since release, and until now havent really stayed with any one class, and am making up lost time on my mage. ill still probably play alts at times, but i dont plan on getting any up very high. alts have helped me understand other classes beyond what you learn from grouping with them. get more insight on what they can and cant do. i do know i wouldnt fall behind from them, if my char starts slipping its because im busy or want a couple days off of everquest (though hasnt really happened yet). not sure if id like my trader tagged, shouldnt affect much i guess. i dont go around trying to screw people or anything. and i was in the horde, but there wasnt enough action there for me. plus i didnt get along well with a certain horde member<img src="/forums/images/gpicons/face_wink.gif"> so anyway i was looking at dark conquest, really looking at them (especially since one of my friends is in there, as well as some horde members moving over to it), but since both guilds are at good levels and both do lots of raiding, it makes it tough which guild i would want to go after. perhaps after i get high enough to group with some of you higher members ill be able to make an easier choice. thanks for your help. -------------------------- 
UnRetired member of Temerity 
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Hylas · 11-04-2003, 05:14 PM

As a fairly new member and this being the only guild I have belonged to I offer you my perspective: Role playing is certainly encouraged in Temerity, when I joined several of the officers expressed the hope that more RP from me and others like me would encourage other players as well to role play more. While I love the hunt I have enjoyed role-playing more, why get 50% of the game when you can get it all. By Role Playing I don’t mean covering my tags but rather how I play the game, if you want to go around in RP mode but play the game like Diablo then you can, anon is out though because of everything it hides. Don't expect to get an item from anyone when things are getting passed around. Personally I have to pay a penance when I get something from someone. I like to feel that everything I have I have adventured for, if im given something I will take up a quest on behalf of the person who gave it to me so that it sits right in the way I want to play my character. The shark’s circle when hand-me-downs are out but it is need before greed. Temerity offers a wide range of experiences and you’re only really limited by your imagination. Personally I have no alts but do have a mule or two, one of them is even guilded. I think the main thing that you need to keep in mind is that your primary should be primary and your mules will never get as much time. I have found that Temerity is always trying something so I have had no desire to play a mule; my highest-level character is barely high enough for some of the stuff we try. Getting along with each other is important, very important. I deal with differences through communication and say only what I would say to their face to theirs when they are not around. Generally I have had no problems with Temerity members. When situations have arisen I dealt with my issues and left it to the other person to deal with theirs. I think I have made it clear to all that I'm here to have fun and if your going to bring me down, take it somewhere else. I have had no need for a trader; I'm adventuring way too much to stop to trade. I give what I want to the guild and I sell what I want. I have given things away to newbie’s who have done quests for me and I have stuff sitting on mules for the day I start a new character. I share with the guild as they are my community and the people I spend my time with and I want their time in Norrath to be as fun as mine. You cannot be greedy in Temerity and you can expect others to help you when it is needed. Ultimately your decision is dependent upon what you want out of the game and the guild you spend your time with. Temerity is like the other guilds, I imagine, as far as what they offer to you as a player. I have met many quality players and some of them have been in other guilds or ended up in other guilds. Temerity fights Dragons and goes to planes to wreak havoc on those who are a challenge. Temerity is a mixture of experience and luck, of good decisions and teamwork. We all have something to learn, everyone, but the quality of people you surround yourself by will help dictate how fast and how correct that learning is. Temerity has standards; you will not find any of us running through a newbie zone recruiting players. And I expect everyone that I come across to act like an adult rather they are or not, being one myself I just expect a certain level of maturity. I fit well with Temerity and have enjoyed my time in the guild. I look forward to the adventures that are still out there to be over come and have enjoyed the adventures I have had. Hylas Tunareborne Woodelf Druid of Tunare 40th Season<img src="/forums/images/gpicons/face_grin.gif">

Deleted User · 11-05-2003, 01:08 AM

<center><div class="QuotedForumText" style="width: 90%;text-align: left;"><hr>quote: I have had no need for a trader; I'm adventuring way too much to stop to trade. I give what I want to the guild and I sell what I want. I have given things away to newbie’s who have done quests for me and I have stuff sitting on mules for the day I start a new character. I share with the guild as they are my community and the people I spend my time with and I want their time in Norrath to be as fun as mine. You cannot be greedy in Temerity and you can expect others to help you when it is needed. <hr></div></center>

well not everyone needs a bogling spear or a spitpaw tunic, if someone in the guild needed one id give it to them, but i have a trader to sell off the stuff that i think would go to waste on an npc. i dont waste any time with him, when i go to play eq i log out of him and into pazuzu (actually faster than starting up eq really), when i go to sleep i log out and onto trader. right now he does stein of moggok quests, at level 34 i spent hundreds of plat on spells, research, and failed research combines, so money is getting a bit more necessary. each level i have 2 pets to research, more if i want even more diversity. anyway i dont sit around farming anything for money, and at my level i dont get the best of merchent trash to sell, anyway even stein quest id do for members who needed one.

edit: oops for some reason it logged me in under my old name, since i dont use larus anymore (larus was what i used for the horde guild page), i just made a new generic name Rider, sorry about that.

anyway its not a greed thing as much as a, if i can leave a trader on overnight why not, since it furthers my characters development as well as offering items at a reasonable price, thus furthering the community (as opposed to some traders in bazaar).